21 May 2011

Jakten på Odin (Hunt for Odin)


This Wikipedia article strengthens my postitions stated by me in my earlier (very recent) posts that anyone looking for the historical ancient (approximately several centuries before & after Christ) real-life figure 'Odin', using the modern north-germanic form, 'Odin' in swedish, norwegian and danish and Óðdinn in Icelandic is using a modern form of Woden- and is barking up the wrong tree, comparing "apples to oranges". If any researcher wants to find if there was a real-life man named Odin, some 2000 years ago, he/she should use the nonanachronistic word-form or similar forms as in Wodenaz, Woden, Wotan, etc. This is the form that any ancient germanics from 2000 years ago would have used. The O-forms, Odin, Óðinn, Óthon, Óthin did not even exist until early-oldnorse lost the w-sound before rounded vowels around 600-700 AD, O/U, e.g. pgmc/modern-icelandic--  *worðan/orð (word),

*worðenaz/orðdinn (past participle [pp] become from the mod-icelandic verb verða (to become) cognate to modern high-german MHG (infinitive) werden, pp geworden, to OE (west-saxon) weorðan, pp, geworden or worden--pgmc *wurðun (they became), wuerden in MHG and the w-less form in icelandic urðu, (they became). MHG. More exmples, english/swedish:  wonder/under, wound/ond, work/yrke ('yrke' i-shifted/umlauted form, means occupation), but the verb 'to work', in OE weorcan/verka the w in the later form of v is preserved because e is not a rounded vowel. OE/Swed, wulf/ulv.
by K.S. Doig

Published, formatted & edited by Kenneth S. Doig 11 may 2011

Jakten på Odin

Wódenaz on horse, wearing his

Vendel-helmet & with magical

spear in hand
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Search for Odin (Norwegian: Jakten på Odin[The Hunt for Odin]) is the project title of Thor Heyerdahl's last series of archaeological excavations, which took place in Azov (Tanais) in Russia.


Theoretical background

Heyerdahl's intention was to prove the veracity of the account of Snorri Sturluson in the Ynglinga saga, written in the 13th century, about the origin of the Norse royal dynasties, and the pre-Christian Norse gods. Snorri provides a euhemeristic account, in which he describes the Norse god Odin and some other Norse gods, the Æsir, as having been real people who emigrated from the area around the river Don to Scandinavia at the time of the Roman expansion into their old homeland. In Scandinavia, Snorri writes, they so impressed the native population that they started worshipping them as gods.

Heyerdahl tried to seek the origins of the Æsir (the word Æsir is the plural, nominative. form of the word Áss nom. singular,, Áss/Æsir is a member of what is called in germanic linguistics, 'athematic umlauting verbs', represented in english such words as man/men [from pgmc *mann-/*manniz, the letter i in manniz effected vowels to its left, umlaut, i-shift, over several centuries, the word became *mann/menni, then by attested OE times, the final vowel was considered redundant to show plurality, so it was dropped and we get OE mann/menn, same thing happend in ngcm, Sw, man/män, Norw. mann/menn and Da. mand/mænd & MHG mann/männer, more examples: goose/geese, tooth/teeth, foot/feet. In OE, more nouns belonged to this class, like book, bóc/béc, the plural should be 'beek', ós /és (god, cognate to Áss/Æsir, OldHighGerman, Ans/Ensi, Gothic Ans, all from proto-germanic *ansuz, plural, *ansiwiz (god) and is cognate to avestan, an old-iranian language, ahura [supreme deity], K.S. Doig) as in the zorastrian holy scriptures, the Gathas, "Ahura Mazda",   following the route set out by Snorri Sturluson in the Ynglinga saga, from the Black Sea and the river Tanais (referred to by Snorri Sturluson by the names Tanaís and Tanakvís) via Saxon homelands in northern Germany, Odense on Fyn, Denmark to Old Sigtuna, ancient Sweden. When Heyerdahl died, the second season of excavations were just finished.


The excavations performed in Tanais, near the entry of the Don into the Black Sea, have shown that Tanais actually did have a population at the time of the supposed emigration of the Æsir sometime around 60 B.C., according to Heyerdahl's interpretation of the references to Roman expansion into the Caucasus). That there was a city there at that time, had also been shown by previous archaeological excavations. Heyerdahl also claimed that findings and Russian written sources from the Caucasus area verify not only the existence of the Æsir or the Iranian Ossetians; whom he described as "the Odin people of today"—but also of an ancient tribe living around the area of Lake Van in today's Turkey.

 Critique  (Apparently, Heyerdahl either did not know about germanic historical linguistics)

Ancient frankish,

pagan gravestone

with the god the

franks would´ve

called Wodan
Heyerdahl's Odin project was subjected to fierce criticism from Norwegian academics within the fields of research upon which the theory touches. Both the first book detailing the Odin project, Ingen grenser from 1999, and the second book, Jakten på Odin from 2001, were met with a forceful and detailed response from leading academics in which the reasons were laid out to the wider public as to why Heyerdahl's theory in their view was false. After the last book the attacks against Heyerdahl were also worded in a way that by many was seen as disrespectful. The five leading academics responsible for the reviews explained that although popular literature would not normally be subject to such scrutiny, they felt it was necessary in this case, partly because Heyerdahl himself laid claim to academic credentials and partly due to his popularity[ibid].

The reviewers, speaking on behalf of the academic community of Norway, categorize Heyerdah's theory as an example of pseudoarchaeology, based on a selective reading of sources, and a lack of understanding, or a lack of willingness to use basic scientific methodology. Much of the foundation of his theory, they point out, is based on similarities between names of figures from Norse mythology and geographical place-names of the present time in the Pontic steppe and Caucasus. Comparison of these names is done with disregard of linguistic theory, according to the reviewers.

Ancient depticiton of Wóðenaz

with wolfman
Azov is believed by Heyerdahl to have derived its name from as-hof - temple of the Æsir. Mainstream linguists and historians will say that the city of Azov got its name from the Turks, over 1000 years after Heyerdahl believes the Æsir lived there. Heyerdahl also points to the similarities between the word Æsir and the Azeri and Ossetian peoples of the Caucasus, between the god Odin and the Caucasian language group Udi and between the god Tyr and Turkey, and between the Vanir (a group of Norse gods) and the word Vannic, which was for a time in the 19th and 20th centuries the name used for the Urartian language, spoken in ancient times in the area around Lake Van.

The linguists and historians behind the review point out that there is no reason to believe that these similarities are any more than coincidences. In particular, they point out that Heyerdahl makes no attempt to look at the development of languages - he anachronistically compares modern day forms with ancient ones. For instance, diachronic linguists will say that the god Odin was called Wōdanaz 2,000 years ago, which no longer looks so similar to Udi. Similarly, they assert that his hypothesis fails to explain why there should be any relation whatever between antiquity/medieval Germanic names, and names that are to be attributed to extremely distant languages, if those be Indo-European at all (as Turkish and Caucasian languages have no relation whatever to Germanic, while Ossetic at least is Indo-European, although from the Indo-Iranian family).

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